DUST Search - Something happening to REs?

Azri Sarum wrote:

Beld Errmon wrote:

They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools.

Considering how hard tanks are stomping over infantry in most games (Just my observation here, but really hard) something has to give. It really doesn't matter if a few of us can handle tanks if they are running roughshod over 95% of the player base. It can't go on like this and we all know it.

Regarding the jihad jeeps... I have mixed feelings about them. On one hand, its great to see gameplay like this happen. Its very sanbox-esque. CCP gave us the tools and we figured out clever things to do with them, love it. Its also rather difficult if the enemy team is in the least bit competent, infantry or the tanker itself can blow you sky high if they see you. That said, it scales poorly. The same tactic can take out crap fit militia tanks the same as the best brick tanked tanks. I dunno, i feel like its perfect on the low to mid range of tanks, but a bit too powerful on the high end tanks.

More than anything though I would hate to lose this as a tactic. It adds to the game, and we would be worse off if was removed. We should be talking about balancing it, rather than removing it.

Also CCP, make them stick to infantry. Doooo eeeet


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Lorhak Gannarsein 1344	Posted - 2014.01.28 10:07:00 - [1] - Quote LEHON Xeon wrote: Rumor I heard was that jihad jeeps will no longer be viable in 1.8 Something supposed to happen with REs. This better stay a rumour, CCP. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1344	Posted - 2014.01.28 10:13:00 - [2] - Quote Can you link it to me? Or tell me which Dev so I can find it? I would be desperately disappointed if it were removed. If it's a flaw, then by all means fix it, but please put it back in legitimately! It's an awesome tactic, as much as it makes me cringe, and it really adds some depth to the battlefield. I'd be sorry to see it go. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1344	Posted - 2014.01.28 10:20:00 - [3] - Quote Why is it wrong, exactly? Do you mean not intended by the devs, or in your opinion? Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1345	Posted - 2014.01.28 10:50:00 - [4] - Quote I actually think it's an awesome tactic; jihad jeeps guarantee a dead clone, the loss of some ISK, and aren't too difficult to counter. It's certainly the most efficient way to deal with my douchebag permahardened tank. NK Scout wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infqntry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it What? Really? Pretty much every FPS has something like REs, and it's not like they're hard to counter - it's kind of obvious. After all, if the scout runs through your group, and doesn't kill anyone, there's only one thing he's just dropped, and it ain't a nano hive . And if you ARE a scout, why is there especial hate for something that OHKOs you? Basically everything does. God, I can oneshot some scouts with splash damage. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1370	Posted - 2014.01.28 14:12:00 - [5] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose? also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu. What does this have to do with anything at all? God damn! You really can't help yourself, can you! Only one person in this thread has claimed that REs are too powerful or whatever. At no point did I complain about them - if you could READ you'd know that I EXPLICITLY stated that I LIKED the mechanic and it should be KEPT. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1373	Posted - 2014.01.28 14:22:00 - [6] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: I... I just want to kill a tank with 3 re's that stuck to him. That's it. I can care less about jihad jeeps (as I rarely tank). I tank most of the time. I still couldn't care less. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1376	Posted - 2014.01.28 15:07:00 - [7] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose? also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu. What does this have to do with anything at all? God damn! You really can't help yourself, can you! Only one person in this thread has claimed that REs are too powerful or whatever. At no point did I complain about them - if you could READ you'd know that I EXPLICITLY stated that I LIKED the mechanic and it should be KEPT. Its funny these re-tards will hate on tankers even when you agree with them. i'm a tanker and I support the keeping of jihad jeeps and buffing proxy REs or atleast removing the beep that gives them away. I know, right? You just can't win. Got a nice thread brewing at the moment; people like this make me want to keep it to myself; feel like there's a lot of discussion to be had. And yeah. Either remove the beep from proxes, or buff the living sh*t out of their damage, cos I mean really. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1379	Posted - 2014.01.28 15:20:00 - [8] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: If tankers can exploit militia gear to take control of the battlefield, honest infantry should be able to pack a car full of C4 and take it back. REs should remain sticky and be able to stick to anything. Red vehicles more so than anything, but even sticking them on friendly things not only makes sense but is completely valid. To hell with tanker QQ. You want jihad jeeps gone? Get out of your tin can and pick up a rifle, soldier! Down with tank spam! If I'm having issues getting you with my rail, my HMG sets of your remotes quite nicely Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1385	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:34:00 - [9] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Eberk Baldek wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if CCP eliminated the possibility of making a Jihad LAV. They obviously won't be happy until tanks are utterly invincible. Oh, wait, they ARE already totally invincible! They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools. I was watching someone use proxes to devastating effect the other day. Forge guns still work a treat, and clearly REs are effective. Basically, I agree entirely. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Lorhak Gannarsein 1400	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:24:00 - [10] - Quote Azri Sarum wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools. Considering how hard tanks are stomping over infantry in most games (Just my observation here, but really hard) something has to give. It really doesn't matter if a few of us can handle tanks if they are running roughshod over 95% of the player base. It can't go on like this and we all know it. Regarding the jihad jeeps... I have mixed feelings about them. On one hand, its great to see gameplay like this happen. Its very sanbox-esque. CCP gave us the tools and we figured out clever things to do with them, love it. Its also rather difficult if the enemy team is in the least bit competent, infantry or the tanker itself can blow you sky high if they see you. That said, it scales poorly. The same tactic can take out crap fit militia tanks the same as the best brick tanked tanks. I dunno, i feel like its perfect on the low to mid range of tanks, but a bit too powerful on the high end tanks. More than anything though I would hate to lose this as a tactic. It adds to the game, and we would be worse off if was removed. We should be talking about balancing it, rather than removing it. Also CCP, make them stick to infantry. Doooo eeeet It has the same effectiveness against a high-end tank, true, but a competent tanker shouldn't be caught out by it. Generally speaking, I cost the guy a few clones before he gets me; it's rare when I'm killed on the first couple of tries, and when that happens anything would have done the trick, so long as I was caught by surprise. It does irritate me when I get a hit on the LAV with my railgun but nothing explodes, though. Akdhar Saif wrote: If this is true and they do change it then Dust will become a whole lot more boring to play. If anything they should give vehicles a much higher scan profile so they can be seen easily. There's no way a 3 Tonne tank can avoid a drop-suits sensors. They don't ignore them. Your ten metre radius is smaller than you think. I hear HAVs have a scan precision of about 150db; couldn't tell you where I heard that, though, only that it was somewhere on the forums. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!